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Vibe coding platform Base44 launches own model as AI startups seek defensibility | TechCrunch

Base44, a vibe-coding platform acquired by Wix for $80 million, has launched its own AI model to support users in creating apps with natural language, sparking discussions on defensibility and model ownership in the AI startup landscape.

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Vince So Base44, which Wix acquired for $80 million, is now rolling out its own AI model. I think this is really interesting because it's a move towards creating more customized and efficient solutions for app creation. The founder, Maor Shlomo, mentions that owning the model allows for optimizations on latency, cost, and efficiency.

Ava That's a great point, Vince. The vibe-coding space is getting crowded, and having control over the model could be a significant differentiator. I'm curious to see how this plays out, especially with competitors like Lovable, which relies on external LLMs. Do you think this gives Base44 a leg up?

Vince I think it's a strong move. Base44's model, Base1, was developed and trained on a dataset generated from tens of millions of real user interactions on the platform. This kind of data is incredibly valuable for training a model that's tailored to their specific use case. Plus, it allows them to optimize for their users' needs more effectively.

Ava I'm not sure if it's a guarantee of success, though. The article mentions that frontier models are still very general and might not be suitable for all use cases. But at the same time, if Base44 can make their model more efficient and cost-effective, that could be a huge advantage. Especially for enterprise customers who are starting to get concerned about the cost of using AI.

Vince Exactly. And it's not just about the model itself, but also about the infrastructure and data that Base44 has access to. According to Jonathan Userovici, a general partner at Headline, data, distribution, and tech stack are three key ingredients for defensibility in AI startups. So, in a way, Base44 is hedging its bets by investing in its own model and infrastructure.

Ava I'm still a bit skeptical about how this plays out in the long run. I mean, we're seeing a lot of movement in the AI space, with companies like SpaceX acquiring Cursor for $60 billion. That's a huge bet on the future of AI coding. And then there are companies like Lovable, which just raised $200 million and reached unicorn status. It's a very competitive landscape.